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> <channel><title>Comments on: Credit Cards are Not Evil</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=credit-cards-are-not-evil</link> <description>A personal finance blog teaching you how to live debt free and use credit wisely.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:18:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: No Debt Plan &#8211; Best of the Best Blogger Series</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-204661</link> <dc:creator>No Debt Plan &#8211; Best of the Best Blogger Series</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-204661</guid> <description>[...] have always said that credit cards are a tool. One of my first posts was Credit Cards Are Not Evil. An axe can cut down a tree as part of building a cabin, and it can be used to break into a home. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have always said that credit cards are a tool. One of my first posts was Credit Cards Are Not Evil. An axe can cut down a tree as part of building a cabin, and it can be used to break into a home. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 3 Ways to React When Your Credit Card Terms Change</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-145632</link> <dc:creator>3 Ways to React When Your Credit Card Terms Change</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 11:30:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-145632</guid> <description>[...] American Express&#8217; Blue Cash credit card. One of my first posts I wrote on this blog was how credit cards were not evil, and I talked about earning over $400 in cash back rewards with the Blue Cash card. We&#8217;ve [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] American Express&#8217; Blue Cash credit card. One of my first posts I wrote on this blog was how credit cards were not evil, and I talked about earning over $400 in cash back rewards with the Blue Cash card. We&#8217;ve [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Finance</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-58694</link> <dc:creator>Finance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:01:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-58694</guid> <description>Credit cards make my life more simple because I pay much fewer bills thanks to auto-pay. And I am NOT in favor of juggling credit card offers. Iâ€™m assuming you mean juggling 0% balance transfer offers. That is far too risky to me and is just asking for trouble. Paying with a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month is different from that, of course.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit cards make my life more simple because I pay much fewer bills thanks to auto-pay. And I am NOT in favor of juggling credit card offers. Iâ€™m assuming you mean juggling 0% balance transfer offers. That is far too risky to me and is just asking for trouble. Paying with a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month is different from that, of course.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eric_wan</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-36197</link> <dc:creator>eric_wan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-36197</guid> <description>Rewards are a gimmick, and you&#039;re just inviting more risk into your life. I know you say it&#039;s simpler/easier, but the fact is you DO juggle some mental energy making sure you don&#039;t get bit by the snake.
And, with credit and debit cards, people tend to spend more like you said---why do you think vending machines take plastic now? Mcdonalds?----plastic enables impulse. And if you spend more generically how much in &#039;rewards&#039; are you really getting back? You and a handful of others are losers to the industry so expect more fees and discouragements to game the system like you&#039;re attempting to do.
Yeah, credit cards aren&#039;t evil, but predatory practices by these amoral companies?---I don&#039;t know, how about &quot;not very nice&quot;.
and the comment about &quot;cash just disappearing&quot;---that&#039;s not a credit vs. cash problem, that&#039;s a &quot;I have no budget and just spend whatever&quot; problem. You said: &quot;but if you truly stick to the budget it is not possible for you to spend more than you would otherwise&quot;...well, sure, but how many people actually do a budget and follow it? not in theory--in practice. The answer is &quot;very few&quot;---so in this environment, why is it hard to see that credit cards are just inviting risk/debt into your life? You might be the exception, but please consider the audience who&#039;s reading this---they very likely don&#039;t have your discipline or control---and that&#039;s EXACTLY what the card companies are counting on.
It&#039;s like I wouldn&#039;t invite my alcoholic friend out to the bar with me! ;]. I don&#039;t use credit cards as I do see a cost---a &#039;hassle factor&#039; if you will. If you are a math nut and actually do/follow a budget, I&#039;d just say &quot;good luck&quot;---times they are a&#039;changin!---but if you don&#039;t have a budget/follow it religiously, then you&#039;re just asking for trouble. The house does always win.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rewards are a gimmick, and you&#8217;re just inviting more risk into your life. I know you say it&#8217;s simpler/easier, but the fact is you DO juggle some mental energy making sure you don&#8217;t get bit by the snake.</p><p>And, with credit and debit cards, people tend to spend more like you said&#8212;why do you think vending machines take plastic now? Mcdonalds?&#8212;-plastic enables impulse. And if you spend more generically how much in &#8216;rewards&#8217; are you really getting back? You and a handful of others are losers to the industry so expect more fees and discouragements to game the system like you&#8217;re attempting to do.</p><p>Yeah, credit cards aren&#8217;t evil, but predatory practices by these amoral companies?&#8212;I don&#8217;t know, how about &#8220;not very nice&#8221;.</p><p>and the comment about &#8220;cash just disappearing&#8221;&#8212;that&#8217;s not a credit vs. cash problem, that&#8217;s a &#8220;I have no budget and just spend whatever&#8221; problem. You said: &#8220;but if you truly stick to the budget it is not possible for you to spend more than you would otherwise&#8221;&#8230;well, sure, but how many people actually do a budget and follow it? not in theory&#8211;in practice. The answer is &#8220;very few&#8221;&#8212;so in this environment, why is it hard to see that credit cards are just inviting risk/debt into your life? You might be the exception, but please consider the audience who&#8217;s reading this&#8212;they very likely don&#8217;t have your discipline or control&#8212;and that&#8217;s EXACTLY what the card companies are counting on.</p><p>It&#8217;s like I wouldn&#8217;t invite my alcoholic friend out to the bar with me! ;]. I don&#8217;t use credit cards as I do see a cost&#8212;a &#8216;hassle factor&#8217; if you will. If you are a math nut and actually do/follow a budget, I&#8217;d just say &#8220;good luck&#8221;&#8212;times they are a&#8217;changin!&#8212;but if you don&#8217;t have a budget/follow it religiously, then you&#8217;re just asking for trouble. The house does always win.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GHolmes</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-5052</link> <dc:creator>GHolmes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-5052</guid> <description>@Kevin
&quot;why not earn rewards?&quot; is a differerent question.  I wanted to bring attention that credit cards arent free as I been reading lately.  Dont be shocked if a merchant doesnt ask for ID because we are still earning money just passing the cost on.  Dont be surprised how easy it is for folks to get credit cards because banks are making money.
You have a great title for the blog which I agree with Credit Cards are not evil.  Credit cards are just a tool.  What is the true cost to use of them?
Folks get up in arms when gas goes up 25 cents a gallon but nothing is said when banks add another fee, shorten the grace period or charge the merchant a 1/4 % more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin<br
/> &#8220;why not earn rewards?&#8221; is a differerent question.  I wanted to bring attention that credit cards arent free as I been reading lately.  Dont be shocked if a merchant doesnt ask for ID because we are still earning money just passing the cost on.  Dont be surprised how easy it is for folks to get credit cards because banks are making money.</p><p>You have a great title for the blog which I agree with Credit Cards are not evil.  Credit cards are just a tool.  What is the true cost to use of them?</p><p>Folks get up in arms when gas goes up 25 cents a gallon but nothing is said when banks add another fee, shorten the grace period or charge the merchant a 1/4 % more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-5033</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:39:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-5033</guid> <description>@GHolmes: Again, you are ignoring that everyone pays the higher cost regardless of being a credit card user or not. So why not earn rewards? I think that helps build the case for credit cards on an individual basis, even if they point toward the negative for the group/society basis</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GHolmes: Again, you are ignoring that everyone pays the higher cost regardless of being a credit card user or not. So why not earn rewards? I think that helps build the case for credit cards on an individual basis, even if they point toward the negative for the group/society basis</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gholmes</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4873</link> <dc:creator>gholmes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4873</guid> <description>@ Kevin
I do agree that credit cards in themselves are not evil and they make life easier.  Like your title and see you are on the right track.  It is that credit cards are expensive.
Assumption -
Charge all expenses and pay bill off during grace period. Never make a mistake in paying bills
Charge card is a 2% rebate card.
75,000 Expenses charged to credit card
x   0.02
1,500 rebate
Merchant - my average merchant fee 3.29%, I hope to make 12% rate of return
75,000 credit card sales
x   0.0329
2,467.50 merchant fees to visa/mc
2,467.50
x  1.12
2,763.60 fees with cost of capital added
967.50 Bank makes for a loan of less than 30 days
296.10 merchant makes 12% internal rate of return
(1,263.60)credit card users loose in purchase power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kevin<br
/> I do agree that credit cards in themselves are not evil and they make life easier.  Like your title and see you are on the right track.  It is that credit cards are expensive.</p><p>Assumption &#8211;<br
/> Charge all expenses and pay bill off during grace period. Never make a mistake in paying bills<br
/> Charge card is a 2% rebate card.<br
/> 75,000 Expenses charged to credit card<br
/> x   0.02<br
/> 1,500 rebate</p><p>Merchant &#8211; my average merchant fee 3.29%, I hope to make 12% rate of return<br
/> 75,000 credit card sales<br
/> x   0.0329<br
/> 2,467.50 merchant fees to visa/mc</p><p> 2,467.50<br
/> x  1.12<br
/> 2,763.60 fees with cost of capital added</p><p> 967.50 Bank makes for a loan of less than 30 days<br
/> 296.10 merchant makes 12% internal rate of return</p><p> (1,263.60)credit card users loose in purchase power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4364</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:37:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4364</guid> <description>@GHolmes: I&#039;m going to ignore the punches to my Vols... but to your point, I disagree.
Credit cards make my life more simple because I pay much fewer bills thanks to auto-pay. And I am NOT in favor of juggling credit card offers. I&#039;m assuming you mean juggling 0% balance transfer offers. That is far too risky to me and is just asking for trouble. Paying with a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month is different from that, of course.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GHolmes: I&#8217;m going to ignore the punches to my Vols&#8230; but to your point, I disagree.</p><p>Credit cards make my life more simple because I pay much fewer bills thanks to auto-pay. And I am NOT in favor of juggling credit card offers. I&#8217;m assuming you mean juggling 0% balance transfer offers. That is far too risky to me and is just asking for trouble. Paying with a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month is different from that, of course.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GHolmes</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4356</link> <dc:creator>GHolmes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-4356</guid> <description>Kevin I would expect this from a Vol fan. CHEETAH.  Keep your financial life simple, enjoy living on less than what you make and not juggling the credit card offers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin I would expect this from a Vol fan. CHEETAH.  Keep your financial life simple, enjoy living on less than what you make and not juggling the credit card offers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark @ TheLocoMono</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-1055</link> <dc:creator>Mark @ TheLocoMono</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/01/10/credit-cards-are-not-evil/#comment-1055</guid> <description>You have some pretty good points here.  Especially the part about earning money for paying it all at once and on time.
At the moment, I am using a secured credit card to help rebuild my credit score/history for future goals.  Having been in trouble with unsecured credit cards in the past, I am learning a lot more now about self-restraint and more importantly, cash management.
While I am only using my secured credit card for emergency purposes, I am also learning how to use it and pay off the charges within 2 weeks of any purchase to lower the finance charges, if any.
This is helping me learn how to manage my cash flow in coordination with paying my expenses.  In a way, it sounds like what I am doing is one step closer to what youa re doing with AmEx.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have some pretty good points here.  Especially the part about earning money for paying it all at once and on time.</p><p>At the moment, I am using a secured credit card to help rebuild my credit score/history for future goals.  Having been in trouble with unsecured credit cards in the past, I am learning a lot more now about self-restraint and more importantly, cash management.</p><p>While I am only using my secured credit card for emergency purposes, I am also learning how to use it and pay off the charges within 2 weeks of any purchase to lower the finance charges, if any.</p><p>This is helping me learn how to manage my cash flow in coordination with paying my expenses.  In a way, it sounds like what I am doing is one step closer to what youa re doing with AmEx.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
