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> <channel><title>Comments on: Ditch the SUV and Scoot Your Way to Gas Savings</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings</link> <description>A personal finance blog teaching you how to live debt free and use credit wisely.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:18:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Lisa</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-5472</link> <dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-5472</guid> <description>I have a Suzuki Burgman 400 scooter, and I love it. I ride it on the expressway, and I even took it on a 1600 mile long round trip three summers in a row.
I would NOT recommend taking a 150cc scooter on the expressway, even though it is expressway legal. The wind kicks up and you would be struggling to keep that puppy in your own lane. I had a 250cc scooter and could barely handle it on the expressway. Plus, you don&#039;t have any extra speed at the top end, which means that you don&#039;t have any extra &quot;oomph&quot; to get out of the way if you need to speed up to save your butt. Scary.
In Michigan, you must have a motorcycle endorsement, registration, insurance, and plates for any scooter over 50cc, since they are considered motorcycles.
Because they&#039;re considered motorcycles, you have to follow helmet laws and get proper gear to protect your hide anyway.
Scooters are fun, but they are dangerous, too, and if you&#039;re going with something over 50cc, there are added expenses to consider, as well.
Lisa</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Suzuki Burgman 400 scooter, and I love it. I ride it on the expressway, and I even took it on a 1600 mile long round trip three summers in a row.</p><p>I would NOT recommend taking a 150cc scooter on the expressway, even though it is expressway legal. The wind kicks up and you would be struggling to keep that puppy in your own lane. I had a 250cc scooter and could barely handle it on the expressway. Plus, you don&#8217;t have any extra speed at the top end, which means that you don&#8217;t have any extra &#8220;oomph&#8221; to get out of the way if you need to speed up to save your butt. Scary.</p><p>In Michigan, you must have a motorcycle endorsement, registration, insurance, and plates for any scooter over 50cc, since they are considered motorcycles.</p><p>Because they&#8217;re considered motorcycles, you have to follow helmet laws and get proper gear to protect your hide anyway.</p><p>Scooters are fun, but they are dangerous, too, and if you&#8217;re going with something over 50cc, there are added expenses to consider, as well.</p><p>Lisa</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-4710</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:42:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-4710</guid> <description>@Clair: Excellent comment. I&#039;ll be putting this up on the front page so others can see it. Thanks for contributing!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clair: Excellent comment. I&#8217;ll be putting this up on the front page so others can see it. Thanks for contributing!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Clair Schwan of Frugal Living Freedom</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-4508</link> <dc:creator>Clair Schwan of Frugal Living Freedom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-4508</guid> <description>A scooter is a great way to have enonomical transportation in and around metropolitan areas, as long as you aren&#039;t going a great distance. It also helps if you live somewhere the weather will permit you to make use of such a form of transportation for most of the year.
Many folks consider buying a new hybrid or other small car, and that is where I would caution us not to get caught up in the mpg frenzy. If you don&#039;t drive that much, the cost of a new car will far outweigh the savings in fuel. (Not so with a scooter.) We should stay focused on total cost of transportation which includes: licensing; insurance; payments; fuel; repair; and, maintenance.
Hanging onto the older car and getting an inexpensive scooter can make a lot of sense financially. I think we will see this more and more in the major metropolitan areas.
In some asian countries, there is a sea of scooters on every street, and they&#039;re parked like dominoes lined up on the sidewalks by the hundreds. I am always amazed at what I have seen people carry on a scooter, including a large sheet of plate glass!
The trick is to identify the point of diminishing returns and diminishing practicality, and stay well away from both of them. It&#039;s a math and personal balancing act that should consider the following:
1. If you use a lot of fuel each week, you might be too far from work to comfortably get there on a scooter.
2. If you don&#039;t use a lot of fuel each week, then your savings in fuel might not justify buying a scooter in the first place.
3. The amount of things you must carry each day will also dictate to some extent the viability of a scooter.
4. Some folks need more than two wheels for comfort, safety and security.
5. Will you have scooter friendly roads to traverse? Moderate speeds, no potholes, and sane drivers?
6. Scooters have weight limitations. Pushing those will affect safe handling and braking. Larger people (like me) will likely be more comfortable in a car or on a larger motorcycle.
7. Scooters are fun!
The high mpg of a scooter is tempting, but I can see the wisdom of owning a scooter being something much more than just an exercise in financial decision making.
Clair</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A scooter is a great way to have enonomical transportation in and around metropolitan areas, as long as you aren&#8217;t going a great distance. It also helps if you live somewhere the weather will permit you to make use of such a form of transportation for most of the year.</p><p>Many folks consider buying a new hybrid or other small car, and that is where I would caution us not to get caught up in the mpg frenzy. If you don&#8217;t drive that much, the cost of a new car will far outweigh the savings in fuel. (Not so with a scooter.) We should stay focused on total cost of transportation which includes: licensing; insurance; payments; fuel; repair; and, maintenance.</p><p>Hanging onto the older car and getting an inexpensive scooter can make a lot of sense financially. I think we will see this more and more in the major metropolitan areas.</p><p>In some asian countries, there is a sea of scooters on every street, and they&#8217;re parked like dominoes lined up on the sidewalks by the hundreds. I am always amazed at what I have seen people carry on a scooter, including a large sheet of plate glass!</p><p>The trick is to identify the point of diminishing returns and diminishing practicality, and stay well away from both of them. It&#8217;s a math and personal balancing act that should consider the following:</p><p>1. If you use a lot of fuel each week, you might be too far from work to comfortably get there on a scooter.</p><p>2. If you don&#8217;t use a lot of fuel each week, then your savings in fuel might not justify buying a scooter in the first place.</p><p>3. The amount of things you must carry each day will also dictate to some extent the viability of a scooter.</p><p>4. Some folks need more than two wheels for comfort, safety and security.</p><p>5. Will you have scooter friendly roads to traverse? Moderate speeds, no potholes, and sane drivers?</p><p>6. Scooters have weight limitations. Pushing those will affect safe handling and braking. Larger people (like me) will likely be more comfortable in a car or on a larger motorcycle.</p><p>7. Scooters are fun!</p><p>The high mpg of a scooter is tempting, but I can see the wisdom of owning a scooter being something much more than just an exercise in financial decision making.</p><p>Clair</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Another Personal Finance blog</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-3020</link> <dc:creator>Another Personal Finance blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-3020</guid> <description>My wife and I love the idea, but convenience issues keep us from doing it. We have a one-year-old daughter, and living in the northwest would limit the dry and warm driving season. maybe someday for short trips!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I love the idea, but convenience issues keep us from doing it. We have a one-year-old daughter, and living in the northwest would limit the dry and warm driving season. maybe someday for short trips!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephanie PTY</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-2546</link> <dc:creator>Stephanie PTY</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:51:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-2546</guid> <description>Another barrier that might stop some people is licensing laws in their state. In New York, in order to take a scooter on the road, you need a motorcycle license, which involves a road test. It&#039;s not a great added expense, but people should check in their state before they just buy a scooter and hit the road with it!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another barrier that might stop some people is licensing laws in their state. In New York, in order to take a scooter on the road, you need a motorcycle license, which involves a road test. It&#8217;s not a great added expense, but people should check in their state before they just buy a scooter and hit the road with it!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Carnival of Personal Finance - Time to Give Lots of Link Love! &#124; Fix My Personal Finance</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-2356</link> <dc:creator>Carnival of Personal Finance - Time to Give Lots of Link Love! &#124; Fix My Personal Finance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:18:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-2356</guid> <description>[...] No Debt Plan advocates ditching the SUV and getting a scooter. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No Debt Plan advocates ditching the SUV and getting a scooter. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Carnival of Personal Finance: American Flag Edition &#124; Mighty Bargain Hunter</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-1737</link> <dc:creator>The Carnival of Personal Finance: American Flag Edition &#124; Mighty Bargain Hunter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:57:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-1737</guid> <description>[...] No Debt Plan advocates ditching the SUV and getting a scooter. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No Debt Plan advocates ditching the SUV and getting a scooter. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Weekly Round-Up Independence Day Edition</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-1729</link> <dc:creator>Weekly Round-Up Independence Day Edition</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:24:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-1729</guid> <description>[...] from No Debt Plan says to Ditch the SUV and Scoot Your Way to Gas Savings. That might work for a lot of people, but it&#8217;s definitely a personal [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from No Debt Plan says to Ditch the SUV and Scoot Your Way to Gas Savings. That might work for a lot of people, but it&#8217;s definitely a personal [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hanks Weekly Hangouts #37 (July 6, 2008) &#124; My Investing Blog</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-1722</link> <dc:creator>Hanks Weekly Hangouts #37 (July 6, 2008) &#124; My Investing Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-1722</guid> <description>[...] Nodebtplan plans to ditch the car and switch to the scooter to save a few $ in the bank. There are some compelling reasons to consider [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nodebtplan plans to ditch the car and switch to the scooter to save a few $ in the bank. There are some compelling reasons to consider [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patrick</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2008/07/02/ditch-the-suv-and-scoot-your-way-to-gas-savings/#comment-1667</link> <dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:59:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=290#comment-1667</guid> <description>I used to have a motorcycle, which was great for gas and a lot of fun to ride. I sold it before I got out of the USAF. I&#039;ve thought about buying a used scooter because I have a short commute as well, but haven&#039;t for various reasons. Safety is a concern, but also weather (I live in OH, so I could feasibly ride it 7-8 months per year), storage (no room in the garage), and comfort. On those days when you can&#039;t predict the rain, or heat, or cold, it&#039;s a pain to ride. My commute is also only about 7 miles, so it would take awhile to pay for itself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a motorcycle, which was great for gas and a lot of fun to ride. I sold it before I got out of the USAF. I&#8217;ve thought about buying a used scooter because I have a short commute as well, but haven&#8217;t for various reasons. Safety is a concern, but also weather (I live in OH, so I could feasibly ride it 7-8 months per year), storage (no room in the garage), and comfort. On those days when you can&#8217;t predict the rain, or heat, or cold, it&#8217;s a pain to ride. My commute is also only about 7 miles, so it would take awhile to pay for itself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
