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> <channel><title>Comments on: Should You Try to Lump Sum Your First Mortgage?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage</link> <description>A personal finance blog teaching you how to live debt free and use credit wisely.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:18:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13982</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:18:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13982</guid> <description>@Do You Dave Ramsey: Yea I think that JD Roth at GetRichSlowly had been paying extra on his mortgage and the extra amount was the principle payment. He effectively doubled his principle payment every time.
@Finance Nerd: I see what you&#039;re saying, but for me it would still make me nervous :) I can see how if you bought near the top and then couldn&#039;t sell that it would put you in a rough spot. Glad you seem to be through it now, too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Do You Dave Ramsey: Yea I think that JD Roth at GetRichSlowly had been paying extra on his mortgage and the extra amount was the principle payment. He effectively doubled his principle payment every time.</p><p>@Finance Nerd: I see what you&#8217;re saying, but for me it would still make me nervous <img
src='http://www.nodebtplan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I can see how if you bought near the top and then couldn&#8217;t sell that it would put you in a rough spot. Glad you seem to be through it now, too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Finance Nerd</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13530</link> <dc:creator>Finance Nerd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:33:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13530</guid> <description>As to owning two homes, it was a pain.  The problem was that we built a new home, and when we signed the papers the market was doing fine.  But by the time it was done 7 months later, the market had tanked.  Had we seen that coming, we would have done it differently.
As it was, we paid on two houses for an entire year, and ended up taking an offer that was less than we owed.  It was a financial crusher, and many people have told me they would have just walked away, but I didn&#039;t feel right doing that, so I paid off the deficiency on the old house.
But I didn&#039;t feel like backing out of the deal was an option because a) I had made a commitment to do it, and I don&#039;t break commitments easily, and b) we really needed to get into that school district for my son who is a special needs child.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to owning two homes, it was a pain.  The problem was that we built a new home, and when we signed the papers the market was doing fine.  But by the time it was done 7 months later, the market had tanked.  Had we seen that coming, we would have done it differently.</p><p>As it was, we paid on two houses for an entire year, and ended up taking an offer that was less than we owed.  It was a financial crusher, and many people have told me they would have just walked away, but I didn&#8217;t feel right doing that, so I paid off the deficiency on the old house.</p><p>But I didn&#8217;t feel like backing out of the deal was an option because a) I had made a commitment to do it, and I don&#8217;t break commitments easily, and b) we really needed to get into that school district for my son who is a special needs child.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Finance Nerd</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13528</link> <dc:creator>Finance Nerd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:28:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13528</guid> <description>Sorry, that should be paying $250 of principal on each.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should be paying $250 of principal on each.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Finance Nerd</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13526</link> <dc:creator>Finance Nerd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13526</guid> <description>NDP, I agree that in many cases an I/O mortgage is risky.  However, there are some cases where it can be useful, such as having a first and a second.
With an amortizing loan, your payment on your first is higher, which leaves you less money to pay down the second.  On an I/O you can just pay the interest and put all of your principal to the second, paying it off much more quickly.
Look at it this way, if you had a first and a second, and the payments totaled $1500 per month, with $1000 of that being interest and $500 being principal, wouldn&#039;t you rather that all of the principal went to one loan so you could pay it off faster?  That is much more focused than paying $250 of interest on each.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDP, I agree that in many cases an I/O mortgage is risky.  However, there are some cases where it can be useful, such as having a first and a second.</p><p>With an amortizing loan, your payment on your first is higher, which leaves you less money to pay down the second.  On an I/O you can just pay the interest and put all of your principal to the second, paying it off much more quickly.</p><p>Look at it this way, if you had a first and a second, and the payments totaled $1500 per month, with $1000 of that being interest and $500 being principal, wouldn&#8217;t you rather that all of the principal went to one loan so you could pay it off faster?  That is much more focused than paying $250 of interest on each.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Do You Dave Ramsey?</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13499</link> <dc:creator>Do You Dave Ramsey?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:55:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13499</guid> <description>More sound advice Kevin... I used to think - and I&#039;m sure this is true of so many people - that paying off a mortgage is an impossible task.  Yes, it is a big task, but not an impossible one.
Consider that the actual monthly principle amount on a 30 year loan is so small, it is easy to double your payment power without actually having to double your full payment.
So once you&#039;ve (relatively) easily trimmed a 30 year mort into a 15 year obligation the mighly snowflakes can help you chip away from there.
Good luck with your efforts... I&#039;m eager to get back in the job market so I can pound our 2nd mort and begin attacking the primary!
Thanks!
Dave</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More sound advice Kevin&#8230; I used to think &#8211; and I&#8217;m sure this is true of so many people &#8211; that paying off a mortgage is an impossible task.  Yes, it is a big task, but not an impossible one.</p><p>Consider that the actual monthly principle amount on a 30 year loan is so small, it is easy to double your payment power without actually having to double your full payment.</p><p>So once you&#8217;ve (relatively) easily trimmed a 30 year mort into a 15 year obligation the mighly snowflakes can help you chip away from there.</p><p>Good luck with your efforts&#8230; I&#8217;m eager to get back in the job market so I can pound our 2nd mort and begin attacking the primary!</p><p>Thanks!<br
/> Dave</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13498</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:40:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13498</guid> <description>@Finance Nerd: Yikes. Interest-only makes me nervous. I would rather not buy the new house until the old one sold -- what if it never sells (or sells at 25% less than you are expecting)? But as I&#039;ve said before on here, every situation is different. That having been said, an extra $1k per month is solid. Good luck with that.
@Corporate Barbarian: Yea, you can run through an extra payment calculator and the difference in years and dollars is staggering.
@LAL: Yea, every situation is different. Like I said if you have other debt or really important savings goals, then the mortgage extra payments can wait.
@Golfing Girl: Sounds like a great plan.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Finance Nerd: Yikes. Interest-only makes me nervous. I would rather not buy the new house until the old one sold &#8212; what if it never sells (or sells at 25% less than you are expecting)? But as I&#8217;ve said before on here, every situation is different. That having been said, an extra $1k per month is solid. Good luck with that.</p><p>@Corporate Barbarian: Yea, you can run through an extra payment calculator and the difference in years and dollars is staggering.</p><p>@LAL: Yea, every situation is different. Like I said if you have other debt or really important savings goals, then the mortgage extra payments can wait.</p><p>@Golfing Girl: Sounds like a great plan.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Golfing Girl</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13481</link> <dc:creator>Golfing Girl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:23:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13481</guid> <description>We have no debt except for the house (15-year mortgage with balance of $110K).  Once our EF is at 10K (it&#039;s 3K now), we&#039;ll put every penny on the mortgage.  Our goal is to have $100K in equity (assuming selling at tax value of $190K - realtor fees to net $100K).  Once we have this, we&#039;ll likely move to a better school district using our $100K downpayment.  We live in a relatively low cost of living area, so we can likely get another home for $200K and sell ours for about $190K.
When we get our new house we&#039;ll put every penny on that new mortgage.  I can&#039;t wait to live in a paid for home!!  (Please keep in mind we already fund retirement at 25%, make monthly deposits into our 5-year-old&#039;s 529 plan, and plenty of life insurance, so we&#039;re not sacrificing those things to get the home paid for.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no debt except for the house (15-year mortgage with balance of $110K).  Once our EF is at 10K (it&#8217;s 3K now), we&#8217;ll put every penny on the mortgage.  Our goal is to have $100K in equity (assuming selling at tax value of $190K &#8211; realtor fees to net $100K).  Once we have this, we&#8217;ll likely move to a better school district using our $100K downpayment.  We live in a relatively low cost of living area, so we can likely get another home for $200K and sell ours for about $190K.</p><p>When we get our new house we&#8217;ll put every penny on that new mortgage.  I can&#8217;t wait to live in a paid for home!!  (Please keep in mind we already fund retirement at 25%, make monthly deposits into our 5-year-old&#8217;s 529 plan, and plenty of life insurance, so we&#8217;re not sacrificing those things to get the home paid for.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LAL</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13411</link> <dc:creator>LAL</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:11:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13411</guid> <description>I&#039;m just too much in need of cash to be able to pay off the mortgage.  Too many things are going on before I can pay off the mortgage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just too much in need of cash to be able to pay off the mortgage.  Too many things are going on before I can pay off the mortgage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Barbarian</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13347</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Barbarian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:41:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13347</guid> <description>We used to throw every extra available dollar at our mortgage each month.  We wound up shaving about 9 years off of our 30 year term.  Putting extra money towards your principal really does make a huge impact.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to throw every extra available dollar at our mortgage each month.  We wound up shaving about 9 years off of our 30 year term.  Putting extra money towards your principal really does make a huge impact.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Finance Nerd</title><link>http://www.nodebtplan.net/2009/03/09/should-you-try-to-lump-sum-your-first-mortgage/#comment-13337</link> <dc:creator>Finance Nerd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:57:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nodebtplan.net/?p=2089#comment-13337</guid> <description>My first is actually an I/O, but with a fixed rate.  The reason for this is that we had to carry a mortgage on two houses for a while when we moved and our old house didn&#039;t sell.  So, we wanted to minimize the amount we had to pay every month until the old house sold.
But, once the old one sold, we kept the I/O on our new house, mainly because it makes it easier to focus our payments.  If I am going to pay $x of interest and $y of principal every month, I would rather put all of $y on the second, so I can get rid of it faster.
So, we pay about $1000 extra a month on our second, and hope to pay it off in about 5 years.  Then we can take all of that and add it to the first and get that paid off too.  I won&#039;t lump sum the first, I&#039;ll just pay that much extra every month.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first is actually an I/O, but with a fixed rate.  The reason for this is that we had to carry a mortgage on two houses for a while when we moved and our old house didn&#8217;t sell.  So, we wanted to minimize the amount we had to pay every month until the old house sold.</p><p>But, once the old one sold, we kept the I/O on our new house, mainly because it makes it easier to focus our payments.  If I am going to pay $x of interest and $y of principal every month, I would rather put all of $y on the second, so I can get rid of it faster.</p><p>So, we pay about $1000 extra a month on our second, and hope to pay it off in about 5 years.  Then we can take all of that and add it to the first and get that paid off too.  I won&#8217;t lump sum the first, I&#8217;ll just pay that much extra every month.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
